Date: 2010-07-27 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
HOOKER ON THANKSGIVING. GOES WITH CRANBERRIES.

Several of my friends, who saw the premiere before I did, tittered that there was one scene in particular that I would LOLOL/LOVE.

I was offended that Pete was mostly relegated to the background, although it's reassuring that he still fangirls Don until the end of time (that line about YNR not living in the same neighborhood creatively, because Don doesn't work there? oh sweetheart, just screw him already). Peggy and Pete were so endearing together -- none of the animosity/awkwardness/capital-H History of past seasons. COME ON, WEINER. GIVE ME MORE FAN FODDER. OBVIOUSLY YOUR SHOW EXISTS TO PROVIDE ME WITH FANFICTION IDEAS.

Date: 2010-07-27 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
and because my previous comment was garbled -- the one scene my friends predicted i would love was what you referenced in your entry. because don slapping --> pete fapping. it's a theorem.

Date: 2010-07-27 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soltian.livejournal.com
IT SURE DOES. Yeah that scene was definitely the crowning jewel, and I am already thirsting for more Pete, but DAMN. I WAS THINKING OF YOU THAT ENTIRE SHOT.

Don: Get me in a room where I have a chance.
Pete: *closes the door* :)?

THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHERE MY MIND WENT, IMMEDIATELY. Pete was seriously so in love with every fiber of Don's being the whole episode. Looks like that lip service he finally gave Don has only made him hooked for life. Words of praise from Don are like Pete's crack and he will follow after him like a puppy for years to get just a few sentences.

Date: 2010-07-27 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soltian.livejournal.com
*That lip service Don finally gave him HAHAHA OR I GUESS I COULD JUST GO READ YOUR FIC WHERE MY ORIGINAL COMMENT MAKES SENSE

Date: 2010-07-27 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
Ha! I am enormously flattered. How could I forget Pete's hopeful door-slam Shut the Door. Have a Buttsex? I love how Peggy has progressed with Don, calling him on his bullshit ("our image remains pretty much where you left it.") and taking his vitriol in stride, whereas Pete, er... hasn't. Score 1 for Miss Olson.

Date: 2010-07-27 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soltian.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think that that dynamic is going to become even more apparent once we get some Trudy, too...the women in Pete's life are all growing up fast and he's just the same spoiled lovesick brat he was, just with better ideas and more determination.

ON A SIDE NOTE - when Pete and Peggy had to split those women up, for some reason his "Are you okay dear?" moment was SO FUCKING CUTE?? HIS FACE WAS SO INTENSELY CONCERNED I don't know why but that just got to me I was like AWW COME HERE.

Date: 2010-07-27 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
fffffuuuu my brain should charge you rent, since obviously you live there. because i melted when peter (yes, he is definitely being 'peter' in this situation) asked the woman if she was okay. i think his success with females* would skyrocket if he just used that concerned tone and "dear" address every time.

* then again, pete snagged trudy, who is the biggest wifely win, ever. suck on that, divorce don**.

** man, was betty kind of a hosebeast or what this episode? the outright nastiness to sally at the thanksgiving dinner table, hanging the phone up on sally when her daughter attempts to call don, refusing to pay rent for the ossining house even after henry admitted don was right... she's usually more nuanced than that. The matronly suits/hair must be making her cranky.

Date: 2010-07-27 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soltian.livejournal.com
I KNOW RIGHT? I was like where is THAT, Pete, use THAT more often! But then again he never would because he thinks seducing women is all about *gettin sexy* and that was him being...well, genuine and warm. IT WORKS A LOT BETTER THOUGH, PETE, TRUST ME. YOUR GETTIN SEXY MODE IS JUST SAD.

*He totally hit a lucky gold mine with Trudy. At the end of S2 I was convinced his marriage was gonna go the same way as Don's. HEY THEN AT LEAST THEY COULD BE ALIKE IN EVERY WAY RIGHT? I still fucking love the parallel, though, of how awful Betty and Don are compared to how amazing Pete and Trudy are (DID YOU SEE I LISTED THE GIRLS FIRST IN BOTH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS HAW).

**RIGHT?? I COULDN'T STAND HER. AND EVERY TIME SHE AND HENRY WERE ABOUT TO DO THE NASTY I WANTED TO THROW UP IN MY MOUTH. Poor Sally. Poor poor Sally. I guess Betty used up all her "smart independent woman" points on kicking Don out, and now she's doomed to a life of bitchy/slutty/irresponsible housewife of an older man.

Date: 2010-07-28 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
"Gettin sexy mode" trololololol. do you remember his face-hiding fail when he tried to pick up the blonde in the green dress during his own bachelor party in the S1 pilot? and then his crash-and-burn with the shopgirl when he tries to return the chip-and-dip? i am honestly curious how the heck he managed to get trudy interested in the first place. i can only assume that he was completely oblivious to her hotness and accidentally treated her like a human being.

betty and pete are big, bratty girls. i think that was the entire message of the Rome episode. also, the idea of those two interacting, let alone being in a relationship -- hah! could you imagine the epic poutfest that would ensue? i think i have discovered the worst uncanon MM pairing possible.

i don't hate henry and i do think that he IS right for betty, in that silver-fox chivalric way. however, they have no business getting busy on my screen. poor sally indeed. obviously pete and trudy should adopt her, so that trudy has a baby (er, child) to dote on and pete has a living specimen of Draper's DNA around the house.

Date: 2010-07-28 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soltian.livejournal.com
OH GOD I REMEMBER ALL OF THAT SO CLEARLY. Especially that friend of his that came around when he was trying to hit on the shopgirl, and his bitchy little comment at the end of the whole exchange. "He has the clap." YEAH BECAUSE BEING SORE AND SNIPPY IS REAL HOT TO THE LADIES YOU LITTLE ASSHOLE. I think that's the only way, honestly, which goes along with the fact that it didn't seem like he was that attracted to Trudy at first. It just kind of grew gradually when she turned out to be perfect for him.

Oh god imagining Betty and Pete in a room just made me think about them bitching to each other about Don. "HE'S SUCH A LIAR" "HE'S MEAN TO ME ALL THE TIME" "HE WON'T EVEN FUCK ME" "HE WON'T EVEN FUCK ME EITHER!!!" "Wait what."

Exactly. Henry's kind of nice and he's good for Betty (better than Don anyway) but I really don't want to see them get it on. With Don out of the picture all the sexy went out of that house, sorry. Pete would be a really creepy foster father for Sally. Just staring with his big blue eyes at this spawn of Don. He wouldn't know how to handle it.

Date: 2010-07-28 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissenliebe.livejournal.com
(I'm sorry I'm creepin' in here like an ass)

They should leave Bobby though, what is wrong with him. Everytime he's on screen I'm so confused and mildly offended.

I feel so bad for Henry, really, Betty IS his good catch but man oh man is she terrible with selling herself to people who don't have penises. He's trying so hard to let everyone know she's actually worth having but they're all giving him that knowing up and down look.

Date: 2010-07-28 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-woman.livejournal.com
Bobby is really the most superfluous character on the series. Has he exhibited anything resembling a personality in the last 3 seasons?

"Betty IS his good catch but man oh man is she terrible with selling herself to people who don't have penises." HA HA HA HA HA so true! I'm surprised that she even managed to find a friend in Francine altho it's my pet theory that Francine srsly wants to bone her and just doesn't realize it.

And MAJOR QUESTION: how old is Henry supposed to be? Because his mother... doesn't look old enough to be his mother. If that makes sense. Or maybe I'm terrible at telling ages.

Date: 2010-07-28 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissenliebe.livejournal.com
God, Henry is.......every age. You're right, he has that head of hair like Roger but he's definitely closer to Don's age, I don't think Betty would settle for much else.

Bobby sometimes talks like he's been hit in the head too many times. He's just so...everyone seems so hesitant to pay attention to him, lest he locks on. HE JUST MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE HE NEEDS TO GO AWAY. Sally has gotten much better, but I feel so terrible for her.